Manual Tally Issues
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Request for information and public records sent to the Registrar of Voters on November 20, 2008.
- SanDiegoCountyCanvassProcedure - An attempt to understand and describe the Canvass Procedure use by San Diego Registrar of Voters.
Background
The 1% manual tally reports, as prepared by the San Diego County RegistrarOfVoters, is quite insufficient.
- No report submitted for June 3, 2008 primary on 11-20-08 -- This report was supplied by San Diego County RoV on 11-25-08 Read it.
- Feb 5, 2008 Manual tally Report included severe discrepancies with no attempt to explain them. The registrar re-ran the automated counts to find 8 missing ballots, and they did not discover why the ballots were missing. By extension, approximately 800 ballots were missing in the election.
- The Feb 5, 2008 Manual Tally Report did not provide any report on vote discrepancies, only reporting ballot counts and grand total of all votes. Therefore, vote substitution was not detected nor reported.
Manual Tally Selection
- precincts were selected for the manual tally, as follows:
| Seq | Precinct | Ballots |
|---|---|---|
| 454 | 240100 | 648 |
| 483 | 260200 | 698 |
| 768 | 403910 | 787 |
| 824 | 406390 | 594 |
| 892 | 409680 | 732 |
| 974 | 420090 | 590 |
| 1067 | 432580 | 819 |
| 1099 | 438200 | 752 |
| 1275 | 468020 | 513 |
| 1315 | 475700 | 585 |
| 1367 | 485900 | 672 |
| 1377 | 487300 | 493 |
| 1425 | 502200 | 666 |
| 1491 | 528970 | 815 |
| 1540 | 532580 | 330 |
| 1568 | 533120 | 570 |
| 1627 | 551690 | 511 |
Additional precincts to capture to get to 3%
| Seq | Precinct | Ballots |
|---|---|---|
| 1048 | ||
| 150 | ||
| 1101 | ||
| 362 | ||
| 720 | ||
| 2 | ||
| 995 | ||
| 1517 | ||
| 196 | ||
| 915 | ||
| 320 | ||
| 624 | ||
| 535 | ||
| 84 | ||
| 399 | ||
| 612 | ||
| 1305 | ||
| 1100 | ||
| 532 | ||
| 632 | ||
| 1321 | ||
| 691 | ||
| 634 | ||
| 1295 | ||
| 191 | ||
| 797 | ||
| 1460 | ||
| 451 | ||
| 832 | ||
| 1434 | ||
| 1256 | ||
| 81 | ||
| 1145 | ||
| 997 |
Additional precincts to capture to get to 5%
| Seq | Precinct | Ballots |
|---|---|---|
| 106 | ||
| 1610 | ||
| 342 | ||
| 390 | ||
| 15 | ||
| 827 | ||
| 1527 | ||
| 1563 | ||
| 613 | ||
| 1298 | ||
| 1126 | ||
| 707 | ||
| 1259 | ||
| 860 | ||
| 70 | ||
| 1407 | ||
| 1382 | ||
| 101 | ||
| 1540 | ||
| 1320 | ||
| 115 | ||
| 431 | ||
| 191 | ||
| 1451 | ||
| 947 | ||
| 251 | ||
| 925 | ||
| 917 | ||
| 1254 | ||
| 347 | ||
| 702 | ||
| 1510 | ||
| 1336 | ||
| 594 |
Extras
| Seq | Precinct | Ballots |
|---|---|---|
| 1217 | ||
| 126 | ||
| 858 |
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Timeline
- 13 Jan 2009 - Reduced PDF file sizes and uploaded the PDFs to the web site (attached at the bottom).
- 07 Jan 2009 - Scanned manual tally sheets at RoV office
- 02 Dec 2008 - Manual Tally report submitted to the public, slightly improved from prior versions.
- 25 Nov 2008 - Response by County Counsel R00016 to C00016.
- 25 Nov 2008 - Meeting with Deborah Seiler. She provided the Report for the June 3, 2008 primary
- 20 Nov 2008 - Submitted Request to San Diego County Registrar of Voters (C00016)
- 21 Nov 2008 - Attended meeting at Registrar of Voter's office and asked questions of Charlie Wallace, Lynn Schultz and Michael Vu. They said the Manual Tally report would be available on Tuesday, 2008-11-25.
Recent Articles and Media: (Add | All Media)
This is the most recently published 20 articles, most recent first.
M2041 2022-11-17 1% Manual Tally Observations in San Diego -- 2022-11-17 -- Ray Lutz CitizensOversight
M1903 2010-11-10 1% Manual Tally Procedure in San Diego -- Completing a precinct -- RayLutz CitizensOversight
M691 2008-12-02 San Diego County Manual Tally Report for 2008-11-04 election -- Deborah Seiler RegistrarOfVoters- M689 2008-11-25 C00016R: Response by County Counsel regarding Nov. 20 Letter to the RoV -- San Diego County Counsel San Diego County
- M684 2008-11-20 Registrar Manual Tally Reports Indicate Substantial Problems with Diebold Scanners in 2008 Elections -- RaymondLutz CitizensOversight
- M692 2008-11-20 C00016: Letter to RoV: Manual Tally Report Questions, 2008-11-20 -- RaymondLutz CitizensOversight
- M690 2008-11-04 Suggested Step-by-step to assist in complying with the Post-Election Manual Tally Requirements -- SecretaryOfStateCA
- M617 2008-09-21 Ohio Voting Machines Contained Programming Error That Dropped Votes -- Mary Pat Flaherty WashingtonPost
- M687 2008-06-23 Results of the 1% Manual Tally for the 6/3/2008 Direct Primary Election -- Deborah Seiler RegistrarOfVoters
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Comments
* Secy of State site showing no report submitted by San Diego County as of 11-20-08 for June 3,2008 election.: After having a conversation with Miguel Castillo of the Secretary of State's office, he confirmed that counties may have submitted their report to other SoS departments, such as combined with their full canvass submission, and would therefore be in full legal compliance, but they still would not be shown in this list. He said they would look at changing the wording on this page to make it less definitive.
