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2016 08 25 Election Team Conference Call

Citizens Oversight (2016-08-25) Ray Lutz

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Election Team Email 2016-08-25


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  • This is conference call #3 since our big press conference announcing our big lawsuit win!
  • If you are a newcomer, you can catch up by visiting Election Team and reviewing earlier emails and phone conference calls.
  • Everyone should read our first email, as it gives basic background information: Election Team Email 2016-08-07

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AGENDA for our meeting

  • This agenda may be updated, be sure to click reload to get a fresh copy.

  • ElectionIntegrity is the most important single issue today -- Ray Lutz on the soapbox.
    • Inherently progressive (although nonpartisan) as it wrests control from those in charge and gives it to the public.
    • All other issues are a waste of time if we have no confidence in our elections.
    • Our Revolution is just another feel-good waste of time unless elections are fair and honest.
    • Calling people to run for office is premature if they don't follow local issues -- COPs says start with local oversight.
    • Providing oversight at exactly the right moment is MORE EFFICIENT in getting real change.
    • Our "Snapshot Protocol" is a systematic method to provide rigorous oversight to elections officials and reduce hacking vulnerabilities.

  • Short introduction
    • Citizens Oversight is a 501(c)3 nonpartisan "Charity" nonprofit Delaware corporation with primary offices in San Diego area.
    • Funded entirely by relatively small contributions.

  • Status report on our lawsuit and its implications.
    • Trial starts Oct 3 and is scheduled for 3 days. --> NOTE: Changed to Oct 4 through 7.
    • Experts agree with us, all ballots must be included in the random selection in the audit.
    • Now doing discovery and lining up expert witnesses.
    • Deposition of Michael Vu to occur on Sept 9.
    • Implications or other counties in California -- will be opening cases in other counties if they say they will not include all ballots cast.
    • Implications for other states -- Two cases:
      • Those with crappy audit laws -- this should put pressure to adopt stronger audit laws.
      • Those with good laws but poor implementation -- Provides a strong tool for citizen oversight

  • Data collection from June Election Continues
    • We have started a 5% sample of the sign-in rosters in San Diego
    • Ray created a tutorial video to describe how this works.
    • San Diego ROV limits number of people. we find three is a good number.
      • One person scans documents w/o signatures, and others with but can be redacted.
      • Team of two collects data from signatures rosters
        • one counting signatures and noting issues
        • one entering data into a spreadsheet
    • This provides a wealth of information you can't get otherwise
      • Most important example:
        • If X voters sign-in and vote at the precinct, how many ballots are scanned?
          • Exactly X? This should be what happens.
          • X-n? Then we are losing n ballots for some reason.
          • X+m? Gain of m ballots?? Big problem.
      • How many NP to DEM crossover voters.
        • It is not clear if these are handled in provisional envelopes, as they do not sign provisional roster.
        • May have experienced more scrutiny
        • but not given the benefit of tracking, which normal provisionals do get.
        • Somehow, San Diego ROV claims provisionals were no more numerous than in other elections. This does not square with other observations.
    • This process is a good way to soften up elections officials that are extremely restrictive during the election. They can't stop us from getting this data.
      • Would like to get a team in Alameda to do a partial data collection procedure.

  • November Plan
    • Will need to have teams established and trained by mid October.
      • Question: Can Our Revolution help establish these teams? * Previous points:
      • We will be trying to get everyone to work together on state and district level.
      • We have targeted the top 175 districts in the nation which comprises 50% of the voters out of the 8000+ districts.
      • WI is a special problem as they use 3500 really small districts. Anyone from WI?
    • Two aspects which can be applied to most districts.
      • Boots on the ground in-person oversight -- must start when VBM ballots start to be returned (10 days before election in CA).
        • VBM reception, sorting, screening, signature validation
        • Polling place visits, Provisional screening, Manual tally room, Chain of custody, Be alert!
      • SnapshotProtocol Oversight -- requires:
        • notification letter to election officials notifying them of the need for the snapshot data file.
        • oversight of chain of custody -- best to have overseers in election office making sure they cannot be manipulated.
        • obtaining snapshot data file (preliminary results broken down by precinct, ballot type (VBM vs. Polls), and ballot option.
        • Watching or participating in random precinct (or batch) selection.
          • Make sure all ballots cast are included (the subject of our lawsuit)
        • Requesting audit report (AKA "1% manual tally" in CA)
          • Need to have the results of the races so these can be compared to the snapshot file.
        • reviewing the results -- Variances that they report, how did they solve them.
        • Check that snapshot file matches their computer report.
        • Provide your results to Citizens wiki so we can build our archive of audits for future reference.

  • Your first step in other states: determine district priorities. See State Election District Targeting Procedure
    • We will be trying to get groups together in each state and target district to do your best at providing oversight. Even if you just show up, it has value.
  • We will be providing a sample notification letter which can be applied (with some alteration) for your state and district for the Snapshot Protocol
  • Q&A -- Please send a chat message to the organizer so we can acknowledge you and you can unmute your microphone.
  • Adjournment

AGAIN, Welcome!



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